Lylibellule On mars - 22 - 2010

hoihoi sanjpg Help me!

This is not a typical post. It’s about a new category appearing on Lylibellule… a category i would have never imagined existing one day on the website. I’s called « Plastic model – Injection kits« 

No you’re not dreaming :-P That doesn’t mean i’ll start to build robots.

Voilà un article pas comme les autres. Il traite d’une nouvelle catégorie qui fait son apparition sur Lylibellule… une catégorie dont je n’aurais même pas imaginé qu’elle puisse exister un jour sur le site. Il s’agit de : « Plastic model – Injection kits« .

Non vous ne rêvez pas. :-P Mais je ne me lance pas pour autant dans la construction de robots.

In fact it happened to me i wanted to do some kits it’s because 3 models caught my attention at a point i got really exited to try this experience. Wrongdoers are :

En fait si j’en suis arrivée à vouloir faire des kits c’est parce que 3 modèles ont attirés mon attention au point de me donner envie de tenter l’expérience. Les fautifs sont:

ID-3 HoiHoi-san « Heavy battle ver. »

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Combat-san

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Pest-X-san

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The first one is on the road, it’s HoiHoi-san. I can’t wait to receive her. But my problem is that i’m completely clueless about this matter, so there is the time for me to ask for some help.

La première est en route, il s’agit de HoiHoi-san. J’ai vraiment hâte qu’elle arrive. Mais mon problème c’est que je n’y connais strictement rien dans ce domaine, et donc c’est là où j’en viens à vous demander votre aide.

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My questions / Mes questions :

- What stuffs i’ll need to have ? / De quel matériel aurais-je besoin?

- Could you provide me which brand for colors i have to look for, the type of colors who fit this midel-kit and also the colors name or numbers i’ll need for HoiHoi-san ?

Pourriez-vous me dire vers quelle marque de couleur puis-je m’orienter, le type de couleur qui convient pour ce genre de model-kit et aussi le nom ou numéro des couleurs dont j’aurai besoin pour HoiHoi-san?

On Hobby Search they displayed a picture with the colors to use but it’s fully in japanese so i don’t understand anything.

Sur Hobby Search ils ont affiché l’image avec les couleurs à utiliser mais c’est en Japonais et je ne comprends absolument rien.

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- And MOST important, where do i can get all this ? / Et SURTOUT, ou puis-je me procurer tout cela?

I’ll be deeply thankful if somebody could come to my aid. Even if it’s a first time for me, i don’t want to screw up my little HoiHoi-san. I would be disgusted.

Je serai infiniment reconnaissante si quelqu’un  pouvait me venir en aide.  Même si il s’agira d’une première pour moi, je ne veut pas rater ma petite HoiHoi-san.  J’en serais complètement dégoutée.

Thanks in advance to anyone who will answer my call.

Merci d’avance à tout ceux qui répondront à mon appel.

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56 Responses

  1. Aniluke dit :

    You’ll need a sharp hobby knife (X-acto or Excel) to cut off the parts from the runners. The parts are mostly pre-colored, so it is not really necessary to paint, but if you want to you can use so-called enamel paint (Humbrol, Model Master, Tamiya to name a few brands). The colors in de picture are by the way (left, from top to bottom): white, orange 9gloves, ribbon), skin color, pink (hair), pink (mouth), orange (USB-port, machine gun trigger); right, from top to bottom: black, orange (handlebar of hammer), dark grey, brown, green and gold.
    Enamel paint is cleaned with terpentine or white spirit. When you open the jars/tins you gently have to stir the paint with those wooden sate pens or tooth picks. Use a fine brush when applying the paint. All those things can be bought at hobby shops where they sell model kits, or you can acquire them online.

    • Lylibellule dit :

      Hello! Thanks for those details. :) I’ll probably go to a shop near my home and if i don’t find what i need, i’ll order online.
      Glad to know paint is not mandatory ^^ That’s what i feared the most.

  2. kyn dit :

    je ne vois pas à quoi ressemble ce genre de kit :/
    c’est différent d’un garage kit ?? tu dois monter, peindre ?
    j’avoue, j’ai du mal à percuter ^^’

  3. Chag dit :

    For ID-3 HoiHoi-san « Heavy battle ver. », you actually don’t need any paint for it to look colour-accurate, as almost all of the pieces are moulded in the right colours. The only exception is the handle of the hammer, which is moulded in gray rather than gold. For this part, you can find a can of gold spray paint at a local hobby store.

    If you do insist on painting the model completely, you’ll either need an airbrush setup, which is very costly and pretty complicated (I don’t recommend this for a first-timer) or spray paints. However, there is a limited ranged of colours available, so it might be hard to get the exact colours you want.

    What I recommend you to get are the following:
    A hobby cutter/nipper
    Panel line marker(s)
    Flat top coat spray

    The hobby nipper ranges from around 500 yen to 2000-3000 yen. These are snipping tools used to cut the pieces cleanly from the runner. While it’s certainly nice to have a good nipper, they aren’t the most crucial things in the modelling process. I recommend the cheaper nippers or just use a nail clipper.

    The hobby cutter is a straight-edged, scalpel-like tool that is usually used to cut off the excess from the pieces. These range from 500-1500 yen. Personally, I have used exact-o knives commonly found in office supply and art stores. You can also use those retractable and utility knives. The keywords here are « straight » and « sharp »

    Panel line markers are crucial for mecha models. And though HoiHoi-san is relatively free of small lines that need detailing, the big machine gun definitely needs some black panel lines to make it not look so flat. For this I recommend the Copic modeler 0.02mm black marker, which is VERY thin and VERY easy to clean up should you make a mistake. I also reocommend the Copic modeler 0.02 mm shadow line marker, which is a very faint gray marker that works wonders on light-coloured pieces such as HoiHoi-san’s hair ornament and the bows on her shoes.

    Finally, there’s the top-coat spray. In addition to protecting the paint, decals and panel lines of the model, it also gives the model a certain finish — flat, semi-gloss, or gloss. I recommend flat in the case of HoiHoi-san. By spraying the model with either the MR. TOP COAT (flat) or MR. SUPER CLEAR (flat), you would be able to get rid of that ugly plastic sheen on the model and make HoiHoi-san less toy-like.

    Everything I have mentioned above can be found on HLJ. Here’s the page for their hobby tools: http://www.hlj.com/toolpage.html
    Type « copic modeler » in the search box for the markers. Of course, these supplies are available through other stores as well. I have shopped often from RainbowTen (http://www.rainbowten.co.jp/english/index.html).

    The top coat sprays are a little troublesome, however. I used to buy these online, but due to the enforcement of shipping laws, cans of compressed gasses are no longer allowed to ship outside of Japan (unless in bulk, I believe). I’m not sure if the situation has changed since the last time I checked (which is around 10 months ago). Your best bet is to shop at local hobby stores. I would think any place that specializes in plastic models should carry them.

    Hope you find this helpful!
    Chag´s last blog ..HG 00 Gundam & 0-Raiser Review My ComLuv Profile

    • Chag dit :

      Oops, I looked at the model again and found out that the stock and trigger button of the machine gun are also not in the right colours. If you care enough for these inaccuracies, I recommend Gundam paint markers for these small surfaces. These often require multiple coats (each applied after the previous has dried), but they are pretty cheap.

      I also forgot to mention something else — sanding. If you are top-coating the model, I highly recommend you sand the places where the pieces were previously connected to the runner. You can use a nail file, high-grit sandpaper, or one of the cheap hobby files that can be found in stores. They will leave abrasion marks on the plastic, but the top coat is able to cover these up along with other scratches flawlessly.
      Chag´s last blog ..HG 00 Gundam & 0-Raiser Review My ComLuv Profile

      • Lylibellule dit :

        LooooL Indeed i’m quite careful with details and i’m also punctilious with everything i start. So it’s obvious i will at least paint those small parts. Thanks Chag! :)
        Ok about a lime, i take note. ;)

    • Lylibellule dit :

      No way to do a more complete list of advices! A big thanks! I’ll see if eventually i can found all those tools near, i did a few searches and a modeling shop exist at 30 km in my area.
      But if i don’t find, i’ll take on HLJ.
      Glad to know paint is not mandatory, it was a phobia! ^^ And yet i guessed that painting a figure like this using a paintbrush wasn’t really recommended. And buying an air-brush just for this wouldn’t have been a good investment.

  4. Nelson dit :

    Aïe ! alors là c’est un sacré challenge dans lequel tu te lances, pour le matos, simple, c’est à peu près le même que le modélisme, une petite pince, une paire de ciseaux, une petite lime, même une lime à ongle pour affiner les découpes, une vieille brosse à dents, différentes tailles de pinceaux, et beaucoup de minutie ^^
    Sinon je ne saurais trop te conseiller les peintures de marque Tamiya, elles sont exceptionnelles, et relativement facile à trouver en magasin de jouets.
    Par contre pour les couleurs exactes je te conseilles de voir avec Jonas, il a plus l’habitude avec ses Garage Kit.
    En espérant avoir pu t’aider un peu ;)

    • Lylibellule dit :

      Merci Nelson. C’est gentil à toi. Oui ça m’aide et pour le matériel, j’irai voir dans le magasin de modelisme près de chez moi.
      C’est vrai que Jonas fait beaucoup de GK mais il n’est plus beaucoup disponible… Je devais quand meme pouvoir m’en sorti avec tous les conseils reçus ici.
      Si pas, c’est que je suis bête. LooooL

  5. Nopy dit :

    I’ve never done this before so I can’t help you out :(
    Nopy´s last blog ..Ein Nendoroid by GSC My ComLuv Profile

  6. Eefi dit :

    Okay, so is she a resin kit? I assume she won’t have the seamlines and all the pegs that stick out like normal kits. I went into building kits just recently and hell have I spent much on the equipment (among what I’ve bought is an airbrush, several colors because I bought bullshit on the first try… oh, I know why I’m about to write a guide.. because there’s still none on the internet). Okay, here’s a quick guide:
    An airbrush will give you the best result but I don’t think you want to spend that much on three models. It’s also hard to make recommendations for tools since I don’t know what you can get. I’ll list what I’ve used and what other people have recommended though.

    (Sidenote: If you can avoid it, don’t glue pieces together until they are painted… that of course only applies to parts that need no puttying.)
    Depending on if there’s stuff to do before painting (pegs you have to cut off), you need a cutter for roughly cutting them off, and abrasives (600, 800, 1200). Work from rough to fine, speaking use the 600 first, then the 800 (on the spot you’ve cut) and use the 1200 going over the whole surface.

    Now were about to prime. If you can, drill small holes in places you won’t see in the end and spear them on long toothpicks (or however you call those x_X »). That way you can hold them and spray from every direction (and will make painting easier too).

    Get a good primer (don’t know if you kit needs this but it won’t hurt)… I like the Games Workshop Skull White (Spray) if they have Games Workshops around your place. They say the Dupli-color Sandable primer is awesome as well (you can get those at car parts stores… at least in America) but I haven’t gotten around to try some since I have to buy them off ebay (and they don’t sell this one in Germany at ALL). :/ If you can’t find that, maybe you can find the Motip Primer.
    Hold the pieces from about 30 cm away and spray lightly. Don’t spray too much at a time. You need just one thin layer to make colors stick to the surface. It doesn’t have to be opaque.

    As for colors, I recommend the (again) Games Workshop colors and the Vallejo colors. They have a wide color palette. I’m not in the mood to pick the colors yet, if you’re interested though, drop me a line :) If I were you, I’d avoid colors that need special thinners. Water thinnable colors are so much more convenient.
    Also, get *good* brushes. I love daVinci brushes, if you can get those.

    The number one rule for coloring: thin them. Until it has a texture like milk. It will prevent your colors to have ugly brush marks. If they leave puddles it’s too thin. Don’t be impatient if it’s not opaque with one layer, you have to apply a few until it is.

    The last and most satisfying step is to glue the parts together. I haven’t found a good super glue myself yet (unfortunately). Probably any will work if you give it enough time to dry and harden.

    Okay, I forgot. If your paint work is precious to you, use a varnish. I have the Lascaux Matt Acrylic Transparent Varnish. Works like a charm. Apply it thinned with water when your paint is dry. I spray it with the airbrush, I would recommend to apply it before gluing without an airbrush.

    That’s it for now. You reminded me that I could resume writing the guide. xD *goes off*
    Eefi´s last blog ..Mina, Model-Kit Diary My ComLuv Profile

    • Lylibellule dit :

      Well that’s what i call a good guide to « Succeed with your resin kit ». It’s kind of you for taking the time writing all this. I’m touched. :)
      And i’ll remember it if ever i decide to start this kind of activity. But this time, it’s not a resin kit at all but just a plastic model. ^^ Sorry :(

  7. moemoekyun dit :

    kotobukiya model kits are pre-painted I don’t think you need to paint them .just snap fit all the parts will do:D
    all you need is tools to cut the pieces a nail-clipper will do :D
    ^^

  8. chubbybots dit :

    Omg am I seeing this right haha!! Congrats on your new category :D

    For a start, just get a simple side cutter and read this tutorial from Z for what we call straight building(minimal or no paint) The cutters I mentioned can be found there :D

    http://gunpla-inochi.com/tools/

    As for things like removing seams, nip marks, etc, don’t get overwhelmed with trying out so many things at a time. Just like what moemoekyun suggested, cut and snap fit will do for a start just to get a feel of your new hobby haha :D Best of all have fun!

  9. divinelight dit :

    Ah, the bug extinguishers-tachi.
    It’s a Koto, and I’ve never built any Koto but many of my friends kinda disappointed with its quality (I only buy Bandai kits and his knockoffs in the past).

    I guess for the starter you don’t really need to do much thing aside of cutting the parts and snap them together. After your first kit, then maybe you could learn to sand the parts. More dwelve in model kits, you shall know many to be learned before you could pose them on the shelves ^^
    divinelight´s last blog ..Sayonara Solitia My ComLuv Profile

    • Lylibellule dit :

      I don’t know…. i know absolutely nothing in kits but few photos i could see of a finished HoiHoi on other blogs didn’t gave me the impression it was bad.
      I’ll give it a try with those 3 kits… and see if i like it. If it does, i’ll try to improve a bit more. :)

  10. radiant dit :

    I don’t know if I’d start a whole new category for it, since there aren’t a whole lot of Hoi Hoi San models, and it’s not a hugely popular series.

    In any case, the other commenters have definitely been helpful in giving you good tips, though it’s definitely more on the professional level. :)

    I’ve got a gunpla too, it’s a 144 Stargazer. Honestly, even though it is a simple model to put together, it can get very involving if you want it to have a professional look to it. A LOT of work! :D
    radiant´s last blog ..Gameboy Micro Porn My ComLuv Profile

    • Lylibellule dit :

      I added the category because i want to post the progress of my making. I think it’ll be easier to find your way after that on the website. :)
      And then who knows, if i like it, maybe i’ll continue this activity… :P
      What’s certain is that those kits will keep me busy a long time. :)

  11. Ningyo dit :

    Aww, no gunpla :p?
    well, the pros’ feedback here is definitely more meaningful than mine, I still don’t know my heads or tails of plamo. All I can say is that I wouldn’t be able to do anything without my design knife (modeling knife, roughly the same thing).
    I’m too lazy to topcoat, but do get primer and nippers. Sandpaper along with the design knife is enough for me to clean up.
    I guess really though, if you’re only starting off, keep that stuff to a minimum and just use tools lying around the place. Chubbs and mmk said it best.

    • Lylibellule dit :

      For now i don’t want to put too much money on it without knowing if i’ll like this activity. But i still want to do a good work because i like when things are done correctly.

  12. god_kane dit :

    Et bien ma Lyli-puce tu te lance dans un tout nouveau monde. Enfin je suis ne pas vraiment inquiet puisque je sais très bien que tu a toutes les capacités pour bien réussir la peinture.
    Et puis vu la taille des conseils que l’on te donne ici je ne pense pas que tu aura beaucoup de soucis pour trouver ce dont tu a besoin.
    En tout cas tu m’en parle les yeux plein d’espoir et de motivation ce qui est très bien :D
    Je suis impatient d’observer l’évolution de la « construction » ha ha
    Heureusement qu’il y a internet n’empêche car si tu devait compter sur moi pour ce genre de chose ….. ;-)

    • Lylibellule dit :

      Oui pour une fois toi tu ne sais pas m’aider. LooooL mais j’aurais surement besoin de toi pour me rassurer si je sens que je vais faire ma miss catastrophe! ;)

  13. Fabrice dit :

    Woa suge na!…
    the thing is… i cant help since i havent done that before. =/

    all the best nevertheless! =)
    Fabrice´s last blog ..Figure Pre-Order Update My ComLuv Profile

  14. mikiwank dit :

    là je suis assez abasourdi, ma petite lyli qui veut faire du kit. Je crois bien connaitre quelqu’un qui peut te donner TOUS les conseils dont tu aurais besoin pour réaliser ces kits: moi ^^
    Tu sais où me trouver ;)
    mikwank´s last blog ..[fig] Myth cloth Surplis Cancer Deathmask My ComLuv Profile

    • Lylibellule dit :

      LooooL. Oui mais j’ai pas choisi des trop compliqués ;)
      C’est vrai que je n’avais pas pensé à toi pour les conseils… pourtant j’aurais du sachant tous ce que tu fais.
      Te contacterai bientot. ;) Merci mon petit Miki. ;)

  15. h4mster dit :

    Nice..I always want to get one of these :D
    If you don’t wanna mess this up, maybe you should experiment to paint on something more cheaper, something that you would not regret when things go wrong.
    You’re living in europe right? So I guess a paint with the brand « Vallejo » is easy to grab. Vallejo consist of two types, the « model color » for handbrush, and « model air » for airbrush. both provide a wide range of colors :D
    h4mster´s last blog ..In Progress>>rx-78>>masking My ComLuv Profile

    • Lylibellule dit :

      True it would be an idea. :) But since apparently i don’t have to paint this figure, except if i really want to, it should be ok this time. ;)

  16. softz dit :

    Don’t really know Jap. Hope someone is there for your aid.
    softz´s last blog ..Winter in Manarola, Italy My ComLuv Profile

  17. bd77 dit :

    Uwah~! Hoi Hoi-san~! You’re really making me tempted in getting her… >.<

    BTW, since it's a Kotobukiya kit, it's advisable to be extra cautious in cutting and assembling it. As their material is… "a bit" brittle, in short, may break if not careful (I've accidentally broke Mr ZenGAR's DaizenGAR kit before this :( ). And yes, most of its major parts are pre-painted as Moemoe stated but the smaller items like hammer, blade or broom, needed to be painted.

    *stares at a local online store site*
    Only one left… *stabs hand* ugu… X_x
    bd77´s last blog ..Draft – At a resort My ComLuv Profile

    • Lylibellule dit :

      Thanks for this precision. I’ll be more careful since i’m a bit of a « Miss Disaster » in general. LooooL
      I’ll try to keep my focus at maximum.
      Indeed Chag told me that too. So i’ll only paint those small parts for this first making. :)

  18. Arch dit :

    Ah les garages Kit, on y arrive tous un jour !

    En fait, moi aussi je voudrais des conseil ^^’. Donc désolé mais je n’ai rien d’intéressant à dire. Quant ça sera mon tour, c’est moi qui viendrais t’en demander.
    (Je comprend parfaitement au fait, ton envie démesurée de réaliser ces figurines. Elles sont cro mignonne *_*).
    Arch´s last blog ..Dragon Head My ComLuv Profile

    • Lylibellule dit :

      Les GK je doute quand même d’oser essayer. C’est beaucoup trop de chipotage et sincèrement, je sais que je n’en aurais pas la patience. Et puis je n’aurais plus assez de temps pour la photo. Déjà que là je suis vraiment en retard pour tout. ^^
      Par contre toi tu t’es lancé si je comprend bien???? Tu as choisi quel GK pour commencer???

  19. Yi dit :

    I can’t help you there. I don’t even know what injection kits are, but they sound really cool.
    Good luck with HoiHoi. I really look forward to seeing it!
    Yi´s last blog ..Vampires, Porphyria, and Lament My ComLuv Profile

  20. AS dit :

    Sorry, I have no experience yet (I have my own garage kit that I ordered that still needs to built ^^;;) but where I ordered from is pretty popular for garage kit figure orders and the necessary equipment for color, cutting, etc. There’s also a huge forum with all types of threads to answer your question. The site in question is E2046.com which is in English http://www.e2046.com/index.php?language=en
    AS´s last blog ..Japan 2009 – Day 5 My ComLuv Profile

  21. lovelyduckie dit :

    I’m not usually into building models…but those are ADORABLE! I can’t wait to see your results!
    lovelyduckie´s last blog ..Monkey High! Manga Review My ComLuv Profile

    • Lylibellule dit :

      I hope the result will be pleasant to look. I can’t wait to receive my package to have a better picture of what i’ll have to do and finally start :)

  22. blogatoy dit :

    WOW you are brave…*.*
    I wish i could do the same thing with my gundam SDs…
    Well, good luck with that venture. I can’t wait to see the results >_<
    blogatoy´s last blog ..taf-2010-banner My ComLuv Profile

  23. Katsura-chan dit :

    Wow big project ahead ! I’m very clumsy completely useless when it comes to do such things. Gooooood luck my sweetheart, i’m sure you’ll be successful ;-)
    Katsura-chan´s last blog ..Sickness and preorders My ComLuv Profile

  24. Xine dit :

    It’s really cool that you’ll be doing customs. I’d like to try something too for gunplas but just like you, I don’t know where to start. Lol. Good luck and I’ll wait for pictures of cool Hoihoi-san customs. ^^
    Xine´s last blog ..Senjougahara Hitagi by Good Smile Company My ComLuv Profile

  25. AstrayP03 dit :

    Welcome to the club, Lyli ;)
    AstrayP03´s last blog ..Reefer Madness My ComLuv Profile

  26. Mazinger Angel dit :

    Salut, pour les couleurs, puisqu’il s’agît d’une maquette de Kotobukiya et qu’ils utilises les couleurs acryliques Gunze Aqueos, tu trouves sur ce lien les références de toutes les couleurs Gunze Aqueos.
    Il te faudra seulement repérer sur le site les couleurs indiquées dans la notice jointe à la maquette (référence H + le numéro) et tu sauras de quelles couleur tu auras besoin et en quelles proportions les mélanger.
    C’est pratique, je fais de même avec mes maquette Super Robot War de Kotobukiya.
    Voici le nuancier Gunze: http://www.planete-auto.fr/Gunze.htm
    Amuse-toi bien, c’est tellement beau de créer sa propre figurine ^^

  27. LEon dit :

    Hoi Hoi san is a good series to go into. You don’t really need much painting. I have the first Hoi Hoi san and I still do not have the time to put it together. LOL
    LEon´s last blog ..Miku Hatsune for Ms April 2010 My ComLuv Profile

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